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Revelation Methotrexate not working Options
Calmwater22
#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:28:10 PM Quote
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Hi
ahh dont like to post re drug not working.
please dont read this and think wont for you.
we al vary alot as to what works.

so here goes

2 years exactly been on Methotrexate and today a Reverlation from Gp now agreeing with New Rheumy Methotrexate is NOT working for me.
ESR CRP consistently way to high not lowering.
so look forward see what Rheumy offers me sure there lot options.

some i know ive already discussed,told by old rheumy no anti tnf didnt qualify.
and anti tnf a no no for ttc anyhow.
Gps already said this.


feel rather cross,like 2 years wasted.
lucky for m i dont have Erosive RA or heads would roll for sure.

stressed i shall not get bad for RA!!!
Planequil wonder if he upps it to max it will enough on its own?

wait and see i guess.
MARCH NEXT APP.

Beggining think what have i done wrong that it not working it was at 1 stage for few months inflammtion was stable that was last summer.lol

iNKY07
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:40:19 PM Quote
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I am sorry it has come to this but it isn't that MTX never worked for you. Like you say it did work for a number of months so that was not wasted as it helped you at the time. It probably is working in an underlying way- ie other joints may swell once off it, but you won't know until you cease taking it.

Like you say there are so many other options and I am sure they will find something to help when you TTC......

Keep praying!

Love,
A



Calmwater22
#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:13:07 PM Quote
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umm yes in my opionion i thought it ahd but new rheumy and senior gp say it not ever worked well,be glad stop it and change.

should think be best settle onto something new before tc to get things calmed down.
lol anyone actaully been on mtx not worked what did your rheumy do?


melly
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:13:57 PM Quote
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I have to say I agree with Amanda. You won't know until you come off it whether it has helped or not. As for your RA being non-erosive: I asked my consultant about this one and he said that ALL RA, if not treated can become erosive. If your base hands and feet X-rays show no erosions, then the mtx has obviously worked to keep it at bay. My ESR is now at a constant of about 45 and CRP at 30. My consultant reckons this is my "norm" as I feel fine and the joints which are eroded don't seem to be eroding further. Some people naturally have higher ESR and CRP than others
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:44:12 PM Quote
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inky07 wrote:

lucky for m i dont have Erosive RA or heads would roll for sure.


Mel, have you actually had a diagnosis yet? Sorry, I've probably missed some of your posts but I was under the impression they thought you had Lupus instead of RA.

What dose of MTX were you on?


Stewart.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:28:55 PM Quote
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Lots of people find that mtx doesn't work for them, just like it DOES work for lots of people.
It didn't do a great deal for me on its own but is better with the humira.
You can't blame the docs Mel because they don't know who it will work for and who it won't work for, and it takes such a long time to take effect, as does everything else.
You were saying you wanted to come off it any way, so now is your chance.
Some try lots of drugs before finding one that works . I have tried 3 other DMARDs in the past, plus combinations.

Doreen xx

PS Jean is right...all RA is erosive if not treated so it must have worked to some extent for you.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:31:55 PM Quote
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Hi Melly,

Sorry to hear that MTX is no longer working for you. I can't see why you wouldn't qualify for Anti-TNF treatment if you've tried two other drugs and they've not worked. I am sure someone will pick this up and be able to advise you better, but I think it has something to do with the NICE guidelines and criteria that has to be met for prescribing Anti-TNF drugs.

Love,

Barbara
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:39:54 PM Quote
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Dear Melly,

I have to agree that I have never heard of non-erosive RA. I left untreated all RA will erode bones, just some quicker than others. It can be left for years before it decides to attack but it still will at some point. This is why they treat RA so aggressively nowadays..and don't like to leave people untreated for too long. It may have stopped the bone erosion for you but not helped with the swelling and inflammation....

Let's hope the Hydro helps as this will treat both the RA and the Lupus.

Much love,
Amanda

Calmwater22
#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:37:57 PM Quote
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Hi Stewart hope u doing good

Umm nice to see u online

diagnosed sero negative RA feb 2008,previously diagnosed inflammatory arthritis but treated as RA age 17,diagnsoed fibromyalgia november 2009 put onto amitripline for this.
still undergoing test for systemic lupus Erythematosus put onto Planequil november 2009 new rheumy and old rheumy prescibed to treat noted by him lupus symtpoms at min dose to see how tolerate it.


now non erosive arthritis WITHOUT WORD Ra in it would mean only have lupus this not confirmed,so what was a diagnosis of sero negative RA is now taken away from me.
for now its called sero negative non erosive inflammatory arthritis.
due to no postive rf factor since age 21 where that showed up twice.


RollEyes

stop and think u been on medication find out its not working but only after 2 years,

so for now im to kept on medication that works for both SLE and RA.
and being watched for signs,awaiting results of tests for Hughes syndrome or some know as APS.
due to sytmpoms consitently showing up as may also have this.

think that covers all those queries for u.

u probarbly not meaning any harm but right now for replies to ask me well are u diagnosed with this that is really very upsetting considering what ive clearly stated what ive been going threw this last year plus.
to me that implies several dont believ anything i post about new diagnsois.
stop think how ud feel if someone said this to you when your specialist had done test and confirmed what u had.


Thankyou barbara,yes that was under old rheumy re anti tnf so maybe new one will differ in his opionion he has picked alot things that hd been consitently missed.
hence the new bits diganosed with.

aprently hes more speicialsied and knows alot about lupus and mctd etc.
thank god for him.

melly
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:38:45 PM Quote
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Ahh thinking of you Melly, Hope you find out the best solution for you very soon........You hang in there Take care, Alison xxx
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:59:06 PM Quote
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Mel,

Just because they can't find the rheumatoid factor doesn't mean they won't diagnose you with RA. My Consultant tells me that there are people with the rheumatoid factor that never show any signs of the disease all their life. It is just a guide....another one! The only caveat to that is for those people who have the RF and suffer symptoms of the disease then their prognosis is usually not so good!

Hope I haven't upset you........ I don't usually upset people! BigGrin
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#12 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2010 9:21:44 AM Quote
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LOL LOL
RedDog wrote:
Mel,

Just because they can't find the rheumatoid factor doesn't mean they won't diagnose you with RA. My Consultant tells me that there are people with the rheumatoid factor that never show any signs of the disease all their life. It is just a guide....another one! The only caveat to that is for those people who have the RF and suffer symptoms of the disease then their prognosis is usually not so good!

Hope I haven't upset you........ I don't usually upset people! BigGrin


I've no idea if I've got the Rheumatoid Factor, but Stewart, I think you have the X Factor! LOL LOL LOL
Carol
Calmwater22
#13 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2010 12:26:31 PM Quote
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Hi
oh yes forgot say.
no rheumatoid factor just means its Sero negative RA Thats why rheumy put me on mtx.
anyway thanks for tips.

at moment rheumy said its either SLE type Lupus or RA.
so in view of that said i have to be given medication that works for both conditons.
He dids ay im to carry on going to the speicialist RA clinic.



oh im so looking forward to next appointment.
nras have given me some drug info to look at.

seems silly kind of dont want stop mtx as concerned about having big flare yet at same time it givin me such hassle and not alot help calming things down for me.

so i pray i do see new rheumy again and not old one as new one more keen to try different things,suppose could ask be seen by him (new one that is.)
anyhow for now im flaring mini flare.
so off to rest.

Inky07

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#14 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2010 7:39:53 PM Quote
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Mel,

Haven't been on here for ages, so catching up with posts.

So sorry to hear that mtx is no longer a viable option for you and I hope the increased hydro will help.

Take care,

Nina x
Calmwater22
#15 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2010 8:59:42 PM Quote
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Hello Nina nice see u online
yes they havnt increased it yet though my appointment not till march so hope they will do so then,remove mxt and maybe add something else and possibly increase the amtirlpine also as think may need slightly higher dose of that also as fibro pain is now not completley under control as it was at start of taking 10 mg.
see what rheumy says.

t care u lv inky07
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#16 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2010 1:22:20 PM Quote
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Hi Mel, sorry to hear the mtx isn't working. I hope the plaquenil helps you, although it does take time to kick in. There are lots of other options, even though you are ttc. I hope you manage to get some rest and your flare settles down.

Hugs

Deb x
Calmwater22
#17 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2010 5:59:57 PM Quote
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Hi debbie

ahh thanks hun,been on planequil now since november so thats what umm 2 months just over only at 200 mg so far,not yet ttc as still on mtx not allowed just stop it so when see rheumy i shall say right lets take me off it and ask up planequil see whats else he offers.


i have alot fill him in on-shall discuss that lupus site though as more apriopiate.
lv melly
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#18 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 2:04:00 PM Quote
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Hi Mel

Noticed you are being tested for Hughes syndrome. Have you had the results of the tests yet? What are the symptoms of Hughes - I don't know much about this one?

Love Jxxxxx
Calmwater22
#19 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 3:09:58 PM Quote
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Hi Jean
yes i have been but not got results yet will get them march at next Rheumy appointment,
i can give u link for hughes syndrome foundation if u like.
http://www.hughes-syndrome.org/index.htm
there go.

not bothered look into it much myself dont feel i have it see what rheumy says march.
t care melly
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lizziemouse
#20 Posted : Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:19:00 AM Quote
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Hi Melly
Just wanted to say thinking of you LOTS xxxxx
So sorry more worries, I'm sure u feelin' uncertain about the future, coming off mtx, fears of the unknown..
I just wanted to say we ALL here for you XXXXX
and here's a great (((((BIG HUG))))) from me just for you,
Love from Liz xxxxx
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